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:::I also agree [[Itilizatè:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[Diskisyon Itilizatè:WhisperToMe|discussion]]) 15 jiyè 2016 à 19:16 (UTC)
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::::Support! —<span style="text-shadow:0 0 .15em #900">[[Itilizatè:LLarson|LLarson]]</span> <small>([[Diskisyon Itilizatè:LLarson|di]] &amp; [[Espesyal:Kontribisyon/LLarson|fè]])</small> 18 jiyè 2016 à 13:23 (UTC)
::::Support! —<span style="text-shadow:0 0 .15em #900">[[Itilizatè:LLarson|LLarson]]</span> <small>([[Diskisyon Itilizatè:LLarson|di]] &amp; [[Espesyal:Kontribisyon/LLarson|fè]])</small> 18 jiyè 2016 à 13:23 (UTC)

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Since we all seem to agree, then here's what Google Translate gives me as possible translations:

[[File:Commons-logo.png|20px]] '''[[:c:|Commons]]''' – pataje fichye yo lib <br>
[[File:Meta-logo-35px.png|20px]] '''[[:m:|Meta-Wiki]]''' – Wikimedia koodinasyon <br>
[[File:Wikidata-logo.svg|20px]] '''[[:d:|Wikidata]]''' – gratis baz done konesans <br>
[[File:Mediawiki-logo.png|20px]] '''[[:mw:|MediaWiki]]''' – devlopman lojisyèl wiki <br>
[[File:Wikimedia-logo.png|20px]] '''[[:foundation:|Wikimedia Foundation]]''' – ki pa pwofi ki gen tout pouvwa Wikipedya <br>

[[User:DARIO SEVERI|Now]] [[User:MdmPaj|you]] [[User:LLarson|all]] know that I'm hopelessly ignorant of Haitian Creole and even French, so please help me out and fix these directly. And when you're satisfied, then please ping WhisperToMe, and he can use this little bit to replace the contents of {{tl|Wikipediasister}} (and maybe remove the yellow table cell in the Main Page, and just let it be at the bottom in plain/non-table formatting?). [[Itilizatè:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[Diskisyon Itilizatè:WhatamIdoing|discussion]]) 18 jiyè 2016 à 20:20 (UTC)


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Vèsyon jou 18 jiyè 2016 à 20:21

Paj sa se pou tout diskisyon nou, chwazi yon seksyon pou lese mesaj ou an :

(ht) Seksyon entènasyonal • (en) International section • (fr) Section internationale • (es) Secciòn internacional

Wikipedya/Kafe/Archive0

Proposal to create PNG thumbnails of static GIF images

The thumbnail of this gif is of really bad quality.
How a PNG thumb of this GIF would look like

There is a proposal at the Commons Village Pump requesting feedback about the thumbnails of static GIF images: It states that static GIF files should have their thumbnails created in PNG. The advantages of PNG over GIF would be visible especially with GIF images using an alpha channel. (compare the thumbnails on the side)

This change would affect all wikis, so if you support/oppose or want to give general feedback/concerns, please post them to the proposal page. Thank you. --McZusatz (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (discussion) 24 jiyè 2015 à 05:07 (UTC)[reponn]

What does a Healthy Community look like to you?

Hi,
The Community Engagement department at the Wikimedia Foundation has launched a new learning campaign. The WMF wants to record community impressions about what makes a healthy online community. Share your views and/or create a drawing and take a chance to win a Wikimania 2016 scholarship! Join the WMF as we begin a conversation about Community Health. Contribute a drawing or answer the questions on the campaign's page.

Why get involved?

The world is changing. The way we relate to knowledge is transforming. As the next billion people come online, the Wikimedia movement is working to bring more users on the wiki projects. The way we interact and collaborate online are key to building sustainable projects. How accessible are Wikimedia projects to newcomers today? Are we helping each other learn?
Share your views on this matter that affects us all!
We invite everyone to take part in this learning campaign. Wikimedia Foundation will distribute one Wikimania Scholarship 2016 among those participants who are eligible.

More information


Happy editing!

MediaWiki message delivery (discussion) 1 out 2015 à 01:56 (UTC)[reponn]

Wikidata: Access to data from arbitrary items is coming

(Sorry for writing in English)

When using data from Wikidata on Wikipedia and other sister projects, there is currently a limitation in place that hinders some use cases: data can only be accessed from the corresponding item. So, for example, the Wikipedia article about Berlin can only get data from the Wikidata item about Berlin but not from the item about Germany. This had technical reasons. We are now removing this limitation. It is already done for many projects. Your project is one of the next ones. We will roll out this feature here on August 12.

We invite you to play around with this new feature if you are one of the people who have been waiting for this for a long time. If you have technical issues/questions with this you can come to d:Wikidata:Contact the development team.

A note of caution: Please be careful with how many items you use for a single page. If it is too many pages, loading might get slow. We will have to see how the feature behaves in production to see where we need to tweak and how.

How to use it, once it is enabled:

Cheers Lydia Pintscher MediaWiki message delivery (discussion) 3 out 2015 à 20:09 (UTC)[reponn]

Help for translate

Hello and sorry for writing in English. Can anyone help me translate a small article (2 paragraphs) from English to your language? Please, fell free to answer in my talk page in your wiki. Xaris333 (discussion) 8 out 2015 à 23:22 (UTC)[reponn]

Wikidata: Access to data from arbitrary items is here

VisualEditor News #4—2015

Elitre (WMF), 14 out 2015 à 22:28 (UTC)[reponn]

VisualEditor News #4—2015

Elitre (WMF), 15 out 2015 à 00:05 (UTC)[reponn]

How can we improve Wikimedia grants to support you better?

My apologies for posting this message in English. Please help translate it if you can.

Hello,

The Wikimedia Foundation would like your feedback about how we can reimagine Wikimedia Foundation grants, to better support people and ideas in your Wikimedia project. Ways to participate:

Feedback is welcome in any language.

With thanks,

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation.

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Introducing the Wikimedia public policy site

Hi all,

We are excited to introduce a new Wikimedia Public Policy site. The site includes resources and position statements on access, copyright, censorship, intermediary liability, and privacy. The site explains how good public policy supports the Wikimedia projects, editors, and mission.

Visit the public policy portal: https://policy.wikimedia.org/

Please help translate the statements on Meta Wiki. You can read more on the Wikimedia blog.

Thanks,

Yana and Stephen (Talk) 2 septanm 2015 à 19:16 (UTC)[reponn]

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Open call for Individual Engagement Grants

My apologies for posting this message in English. Please help translate it if you can.

Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants program is accepting proposals until September 29th to fund new tools, community-building processes, and other experimental ideas that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers. Whether you need a small or large amount of funds (up to $30,000 USD), Individual Engagement Grants can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.

Thanks,

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation. 4 septanm 2015 à 21:59 (UTC)[reponn]

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New Wikipedia Library Database Access (September 2015)

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL OWL says sign up today!

The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:

  • EBSCOHost - this is one of our largest access donations so far: access to a wide variety of academic, newspaper and magazine sources through their Academic Search Complete, Business Source Complete and MasterFILE Complete
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  • Al Manhal - an Arabic and English database with a wide range of sources, largely focused on or published in the Middle East (60 accounts)
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Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including expanded accounts for Elsevier ScienceDirect, British Medical Journal and Dynamed and additional accounts for Project MUSE, DeGruyter, Newspapers.com, Highbeam and HeinOnline. Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
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Only one week left for Individual Engagement Grant proposals!

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There is still one week left to submit Individual Engagement Grant (IEG) proposals before the September 29th deadline. If you have ideas for new tools, community-building processes, and other experimental projects that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers, start your proposal today! Please encourage others who have great ideas to apply as well. Support is available if you want help turning your idea into a grant request.

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources 22 septanm 2015 à 21:01 (UTC)[reponn]

Reimagining WMF grants report

(My apologies for using English here, please help translate if you are able.)

Last month, we asked for community feedback on a proposal to change the structure of WMF grant programs. Thanks to the 200+ people who participated! A report on what we learned and changed based on this consultation is now available.

Come read about the findings and next steps as WMF’s Community Resources team begins to implement changes based on your feedback. Your questions and comments are welcome on the outcomes discussion page.

With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) 28 septanm 2015 à 16:56 (UTC)[reponn]

VisualEditor News #5—2015

Elitre (WMF), 30 oktòb 2015 à 18:17 (UTC)[reponn]

Community Wishlist Survey

Wikimania 2016 scholarships ambassadors needed

Hello! Wikimania 2016 scholarships will soon be open; by the end of the week we'll form the committee and we need your help, see Scholarship committee for details.

If you want to carefully review nearly a thousand applications in January, you might be a perfect committee member. Otherwise, you can volunteer as "ambassador": you will observe all the committee activities, ensure that people from your language or project manage to apply for a scholarship, translate scholarship applications written in your language to English and so on. Ambassadors are allowed to ask for a scholarship, unlike committee members.

Wikimania 2016 scholarships subteam 10 novanm 2015 à 10:48 (UTC)

Bonjou!

Chak ane wikipedyans rankontre ansanm. Nan mwa jen 2016, wikipedyans ap rankontre nan peyi Itali. Bousdetid yo disponib ale nan epi li se èd ki nesesè yo revize bous detid. Si w enterese nan ede bay bous detid oswa ou vle yon bousdetid pou tèt ou, kontakte: Scholarship committee   MdmPaj |pale avè m '  11 novanm 2015 à 23:35 (UTC)[reponn]

Harassment consultation

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The Community Advocacy team the Wikimedia Foundation has opened a consultation on the topic of harassment on Meta. The consultation period is intended to run for one month from today, November 16, and end on December 17. Please share your thoughts there on harassment-related issues facing our communities and potential solutions. (Note: this consultation is not intended to evaluate specific cases of harassment, but rather to discuss the problem of harassment itself.)

Regards, Community Advocacy, Wikimedia Foundation

This is a message regarding the proposed 2015 Free Bassel banner. Translations are available.

Hi everyone,

This is to inform all Wikimedia contributors that a straw poll seeking your involvement has just been started on Meta-Wiki.

As some of your might be aware, a small group of Wikimedia volunteers have proposed a banner campaign informing Wikipedia readers about the urgent situation of our fellow Wikipedian, open source software developer and Creative Commons activist, Bassel Khartabil. An exemplary banner and an explanatory page have now been prepared, and translated into about half a dozen languages by volunteer translators.

We are seeking your involvement to decide if the global Wikimedia community approves starting a banner campaign asking Wikipedia readers to call on the Syrian government to release Bassel from prison. We understand that a campaign like this would be unprecedented in Wikipedia's history, which is why we're seeking the widest possible consensus among the community.

Given Bassel's urgent situation and the resulting tight schedule, we ask everyone to get involved with the poll and the discussion to the widest possible extent, and to promote it among your communities as soon as possible.

(Apologies for writing in English; please kindly translate this message into your own language.)

Thank you for your participation!

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Community Wishlist Survey

MediaWiki message delivery (discussion) 1 desanm 2015 à 14:39 (UTC)[reponn]

Plan for attracting users

I am happy to accept a post as administrator to help protect the Wikipedia from spam and vandalism.

As for editing, I want to attract editors who have fluency in Haitian and a permanent presence. I believe writing articles on subjects that are of interest to the Haitian diaspora in the United States will be a permanent way of attracting users to this project: Haiti itself is fairly low income but the diaspora has more reliable internet access and more disposable income.

This means writing articles about topics related to the New York City, Boston, Orlando, and Miami metropolitan areas:

  • Neighborhoods/districts with large numbers of Haitians
  • School districts and schools which enroll large numbers of Haitian students.
  • Public transportation systems and library systems of these cities
  • Pop culture figures, ethnic politicians, etc. from the Haitian community

WhisperToMe (discussion) 4 desanm 2015 à 22:24 (UTC)[reponn]

I think that Modèl:Kout_pwojektè needs to be updated, so that the Main Page has fresh content – or at least to fix it so that Fichye:Cesaire.jpg displays correctly. Unfortunately, that requires an admin.
Special:LongPages does not show any obviously well-written articles (I only checked the first few), but perhaps someone else will find a good one.
If not, I have found some good articles at the English Wikipedia that might be considered for translation:
w:en:Wikipedia:WikiProject_Caribbean#Showcase has some other ideas. Do any of those sound appealing? WhatamIdoing (discussion) 6 desanm 2015 à 16:30 (UTC)[reponn]
User:FrickFrack has done some good work on w:en:Government Center station (Miami), and that might be a good target for this project. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 19 janvye 2016 à 18:21 (UTC)[reponn]

New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (December 2015)


Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL OWL says sign up today!

The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for, free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:

  • Gale - multidisciplinary periodicals, newspapers, and reference sources - 10 accounts
  • Brill - academic e-books and journals in English, Dutch, and other languages - 25 accounts
  • Finnish Literature Society (in Finnish)
  • Magiran (in Farsi) - scientific journal articles - 100 articles
  • Civilica (in Farsi) - Iranian journal articles, seminars, and conferences - 50 accounts

Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including EBSCO, DeGruyter, and Newspaperarchive.com. Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 01:01, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Help us a start Wikipedia Library in your language! Email us at wikipedialibrary@wikimedia.org
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As many of you know, January 15 is Wikipedia’s 15th Birthday!

People around the world are getting involved in the celebration and have started adding their events on Meta Page. While we are celebrating Wikipedia's birthday, we hope that all projects and affiliates will be able to utilize this celebration to raise awareness of our community's efforts.

Haven’t started planning? Don’t worry, there’s lots of ways to get involved. Here are some ideas:

Everything is linked on the Wikipedia 15 Meta page. You’ll find a set of ten data visualization works that you can show at your events, and a list of all the Wikipedia 15 logos that community members have already designed.

If you have any questions, please contact Zachary McCune or Joe Sutherland.

Thanks and Happy nearly Wikipedia 15!
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Elitre (WMF), 25 desanm 2015 à 00:06 (UTC)[reponn]

Wikimania 2016 Scholarships - Deadline soon!

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A reminder - applications for scholarships for Wikimania 2016 in Esino Lario, Italy, are closing soon! Please get your applications in by January 9th. To apply, visit the page below:

Patrick Earley (WMF) via MediaWiki message delivery (discussion) 5 janvye 2016 à 01:49 (UTC)[reponn]

Quadrilingual

We often have editors who do not speak Haitian Creole (such as me). It is helpful to provide redirects and links. It is also helpful to include translations for some "background" things.

What's the best way to provide a translation? I have just added a short English description to Kategori:Pou efase (deletion). Perhaps, though, something like this would be better? What do you think? WhatamIdoing (discussion) 8 janvye 2016 à 22:52 (UTC)[reponn]

Pou efase

It appears that there is no written policy for deletion at this Wikipedia. I propose creating a short, simple one that says something approximately like this:

  • What we delete without waiting for discussion ("speedy deletion"):
    1. All copyright violations and pages with similar legal problems
    2. Pages that cannot realistically become encyclopedia articles (for example, test pages or pages saying rude things about a classmate)
    3. Blatant advertisements and spam (for example, "Buy cheap software today at http://www.example.com!")
  • What we will discuss deleting:
    1. Articles for which it is impossible to provide a basic description by referring solely to independent reliable sources
    2. Articles about living people that contain information that is both disputed or contentious and unsourced
    3. Pages that editors agree are unhelpful to the project (for example, an unused template or a template that makes editing more complicated for new editors)
    4. Articles that editors agree have no significant potential for educational value (for example, an article about a small store)
  • What we will probably not delete:
    1. Pages that are not written in Haitian Creole
    2. (second attempt) Pages that are written in some other form of Creole. These pages should be converted to Haitian Creole or placed in Kategori:Atik an lòt kreyòl instead of being deleted.
    3. Articles that are (correctly) linked to corresponding articles in at least three other language editions of Wikipedia
  • How we do it:
    • All pages being considered for deletion should be listed in Category:Pou efase. Do this by editing the article and adding [[Kategori:Pou efase]] to it.
    • Any admin can delete pages if there is no requirement to discuss the deletion, or if the discussion has been open for at least one week.
    • If a page is deleted, and you think it should not have been deleted, please talk to any admin.

My goal is to get things done, but not create a long, complicated bureaucratic structure. Part of the reason for making this a lightweight process is that I expect to have very few deletions to process. We don't need a complicated system to talk about one or two pages.

User:Arsendis, User:WhisperToMe, User:MdmPaj, User:Racconish, and anyone else who's interested: What do you think? Also, where should the deletion discussion happen? Would you rather have a central page for the discussion, or would you rather have the deletion discussion happen directly on the talk page of the article/template/whatever? WhatamIdoing (discussion) 17 janvye 2016 à 21:12 (UTC)[reponn]

Hello, thank you for your involvement on this Wikipedya Smile.
All this seems correct ; maybe, I don't know for : « what we will probably not delete: 1- Pages that are not written in Haitian Creole » : last year I proposed for deletion a page written in Chinese or Japanese (I don't remember) and this page was deleted by a Global sysop (cause : not written in local language).
Its seems better to group all discussions on a central place. --Arsendis (discussion) 18 janvye 2016 à 08:04 (UTC)[reponn]
Thanks, Arsendis. I struck out that line.
How would you write "Pages for Deletion" in Haitian Creole? I think it should be "pages" instead of "articles", because there aren't enough to have different pages for different types of page. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 22 janvye 2016 à 00:05 (UTC)[reponn]
I think (but I'm not really sure) it's « Paj pou eface » --Arsendis (discussion) 25 janvye 2016 à 13:16 (UTC)[reponn]
User:MdmPaj, does that look about right to you? (We can always move it later if we need to.)
User:WhisperToMe, do you see any holes or flaws in this? You're going to be stuck dealing with this process initially, so it needs to be something that makes sense to you. We could always ask a few people from the Small Wiki Monitoring team to share an opinion, if that would be helpful to you. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 26 janvye 2016 à 06:36 (UTC)[reponn]
User:WhatamIdoing, I read this and it looks fine to me - In general my personal view on article deletion is that it's best to discuss when in doubt WhisperToMe (discussion) 3 fevriye 2016 à 07:28 (UTC)[reponn]
Would you all like me to move this to Wikipedya:Paj pou efase, and make a section for listing pages to delete? WhatamIdoing (discussion) 4 fevriye 2016 à 03:24 (UTC)[reponn]
Sounds good to me :) WhisperToMe (discussion) 4 fevriye 2016 à 07:40 (UTC)[reponn]
+1 Racconish (discussion) 12 fevriye 2016 à 09:09 (UTC)[reponn]

Update:

I'm going to create this page now at Wikipedya:Paj pou efase. However, I've just added a new suggestion, that differentiates our proposed handling of articles that are written in, say, Greek or Japanese, from articles that are written in other, related Creoles. I would particularly appreciate it if other people shared their thoughts on this change.

As always, anyone is free to improve the resulting page. Just click the edit button and add your improvements. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 6 fevriye 2016 à 22:13 (UTC)[reponn]

This is Fè , with a few changes (for example, saying that anyone can join the discussions), and I have proposed two template for discussion on the talk page. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 6 fevriye 2016 à 22:45 (UTC)[reponn]

2016 WMF Strategy consultation

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Hello, all.

The Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) has launched a consultation to help create and prioritize WMF strategy beginning July 2016 and for the 12 to 24 months thereafter. This consultation will be open, on Meta, from 18 January to 26 February, after which the Foundation will also use these ideas to help inform its Annual Plan. (More on our timeline can be found on that Meta page.)

Your input is welcome (and greatly desired) at the Meta discussion, 2016 Strategy/Community consultation.

Apologies for English, where this is posted on a non-English project. We thought it was more important to get the consultation translated as much as possible, and good headway has been made there in some languages. There is still much to do, however! We created m:2016 Strategy/Translations to try to help coordinate what needs translation and what progress is being made. :)

If you have questions, please reach out to me on my talk page or on the strategy consultation's talk page or by email to mdennis@wikimedia.org.

I hope you'll join us! Maggie Dennis via MediaWiki message delivery (discussion) 18 janvye 2016 à 19:06 (UTC)[reponn]

Article placeholder

There's a new tool created by a student that makes a "placeholder" article when none exists. This does not look like or replace a Wikipedia article. It provides very basic information when no article exists.

How it works:

If you search for something, and there is an article, then you go to the article. However, if there is no article here, then it looks at Wikidata. If Wikidata has some information, then it lists the Wikidata information instead of the "no page found" error message.

You can see one example here: https://articleplaceholder.wmflabs.org/mediawiki/index.php/Special:AboutTopic/Q3

We can request changes to this. For example, I don't like having the "National Portrait Gallery (London) person identifier" number so high in the list, so perhaps we would ask to have the order changed. (I very much like the picture.) I would also like to include an invitation at the top that invites people to create an article.

The main advantage is that it provides information to the reader today, without us doing any extra work today. What do you think? Is it worth a try? WhatamIdoing (discussion) 21 janvye 2016 à 19:11 (UTC)[reponn]

I wonder if it could customize which languages it displays in depending on the Wiki edition. For this one maybe do placeholder in English and French if no Creole article exists. For others it may be English and Spanish (for Nahuatl), English and Indonesian (for smaller Indonesian languages), etc. WhisperToMe (discussion) 3 fevriye 2016 à 07:31 (UTC)[reponn]
That's a good idea. I'll ask User:Frimelle if it can use the MediaWiki fallback languages. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 4 fevriye 2016 à 03:22 (UTC)[reponn]
That is a good idea.
But I would simply provide French as a placeholder for Haitian.
English just complicates matters, as well as seeming overbearing and obnoxious.
Varlaam (discussion) 5 fevriye 2016 à 13:10 (UTC)[reponn]
I am often in Mexico.
For Nahuatl, just provide Spanish.
University-educated professionals infrequently speak English in Mexico, much less ordinary indígenas out in the countryside.
Varlaam (discussion)
Itilizatè:Varlaam, English is necessary because much of the potential userbase of the Wiki resides in American cities: New York, Miami, Boston, etc. AFAIK internet access is more common with Haitian expats in the US than with Haitians in Haiti. http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Statistics/Documents/statistics/2013/Individuals_Internet_2000-2012.xls says that 9.8% of Haitians have internet access (as of 2012)
Remember that there may also be, for example, non-Spanish speakers studying Nahuatl, and English is the "default" "other-than" language.WhisperToMe (discussion) 6 fevriye 2016 à 22:16 (UTC)[reponn]
A bit late, sorry, but yes, it will use the Wikipedia fallback language for now. If there are needs different from that, please let me know and we can have a chat :) --Frimelle (discussion) 14 mas 2016 à 12:23 (UTC)[reponn]
Itilizatè:Varlaam, WhisperToMe, what do you think? WhatamIdoing (discussion) 15 mas 2016 à 20:25 (UTC)[reponn]

News

This will be happening on 11 May 2016. I'm really looking forward to this as a means of getting information to readers, when we have no article.

It would be a good idea to translate d:Wikidata:List of properties as soon as we can. I think that this https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-terminator/?list&lang=ht&mode=t1000 is the list of the most frequently used items with missing labels and descriptions. In order for the extension to display things in Haitian Creole (rather than French or English), it is necessary is to translate the labels and descriptions of items. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 25 avril 2016 à 05:54 (UTC)[reponn]

Èd administratè

Bonjou ! M pi alèz nan lang angle, donk:

I need the help of an administrator to modify a specific stylesheet (MedyaWiki:Common.css) now that the Citation suite’s been updated. Trappist the monk recommended a specific change, but in my opinion, what Trappist recommends is based on English‑language punctuation—not Kreyòl’s:
/* Reset italic styling set by user agent */
cite, dfn {
    font-style: inherit;
}

/* Straight quote marks for <q> */
q {
    quotes: '"' '"' "'" "'";
}
But I think for Kreyòl punctuation we probably want the second-to-last line to look more like this:
    quotes: "«\A0" "\A0»" "«\A0" ""; /* the string \A0 is a non-breaking space */ 
or maybe like this:
    quotes: "«\A0" "\A0»" "«\A0" "\A0»";
I’m not sure how nested quotation marks look an Kreyòl, but it is my experience, that it generally uses « spaced guillemets » instead of "unspaced quotation marks".
Thoughts? —LLarson (di & ) 21 fevriye 2016 à 22:33 (UTC)[reponn]
Arsendis, MdmPaj, Racconish: do you have any recommendations about good punctuation for a bibliographic citation? We've got a few new folks who might also be able to help with this question: NegMawon, CEM-air, and Ceenterts.
User:WhisperToMe, do you have any questions about the tech end? WhatamIdoing (discussion) 25 fevriye 2016 à 16:46 (UTC)[reponn]
@I and @I: The “quotes” line may require more patience but the “cite, dfn” style rule is ready for adoption, right? —LLarson (di & ) 27 fevriye 2016 à 21:37 (UTC)[reponn]
User:WhatamIdoing and User:LLarson I haven't worked with this code in this way before. What is the best way for me to test/preview any changes? WhisperToMe (discussion) 28 fevriye 2016 à 23:42 (UTC)[reponn]
@I and @I: I’m not sure if the administrator-only CSS files have the same built-in preview feature that the Module and Template items do (if so, use that). Otherwise, it might be easiest to use your own site‑wide stylesheet for staging. For which pages to test it on? I’m not sure there candidates here with exhaustive use of citation templates... Maybe try Lekòl Segondè Miami Edison which uses {{cite web}} and {{cite book}}? Does that help? —LLarson (di & ) 29 fevriye 2016 à 05:02 (UTC)[reponn]
I I'm trying to import all of the templates. In Itilizatè:WhisperToMe/Modèl:Cite web it calls "#invoke:citation/CS1" but I'm not sure what it's supposed to refer to...
WhisperToMe (discussion) 29 fevriye 2016 à 23:53 (UTC)[reponn]
@I: I’m sorry, I don’t. We may need to reenlist the help of Trappist the monk. —LLarson (di & ) 1 mas 2016 à 15:02 (UTC)[reponn]
I'm confused. Why is it that you need to "import all of the templates"? They are already here are they not? If what you are doing is modifying MedyaWiki:Common.css then you can make the changes suggested above which will be quickly visible with a null edit to a test page (perhaps Lekòl Segondè Miami Edison). If bad stuff happens, revert your edit. Alternately, you can test some reference cs1 templates in your sandbox and the css that you've added to Itilizatè:WhisperToMe/common.css (or just null edit this page); both of these templates should render with a mix of upright and italic styles:
{{cite book |first1=Christopher |last1=Gabrieli |first2=Warren |last2=Goldstein |title=Time to Learn: How a New School Schedule is Making Smarter Kids, Happier Parents, and Safer Neighborhoods |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=_1-sv2h6EQYC&pg=PA201 |publisher=John Wiley & Sons |isbn=978-0-470-25808-8 |page=201 |language=en |date=2008}}
Gabrieli, Christopher; Goldstein, Warren (2008). Time to Learn: How a New School Schedule is Making Smarter Kids, Happier Parents, and Safer Neighborhoods (in anglais). John Wiley & Sons. p. 201. ISBN 978-0-470-25808-8. 
{{cite web |url=http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/education/16winerip.html |title=New Influx of Haitians, but Not Who Was Expected |work=The New York Times |date=15 janvye 2011 |page=A17 |archive-url=http://www.webcitation.org/6fXgvmZ9u |archive-date=24 fevriye 2016 |dead-url=no |first=Michael |last=Winerip |language=en |issn=0362-4331}}
Winerip, Michael (15 janvye 2011). « New Influx of Haitians, but Not Who Was Expected ». The New York Times (in anglais). p. A17. ISSN 0362-4331. Archived from the original on 24 fevriye 2016. 
What #invoke:citation/CS1 refers to is Module:Citation/CS1, the engine that makes all of this cs1|2 stuff work.
Trappist the monk (discussion) 1 mas 2016 à 20:49 (UTC)[reponn]
Perhaps WhisperToMe had the same first thought that I did, which was to search for Template:Citation/CS1 rather than Module:Citation/CS1. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 2 mas 2016 à 03:57 (UTC)[reponn]
User:Trappist the monk, Sorry for the confusion! I meant import them to my userspace so I could test them independently of the actual templates/modules used on HTWiki. Thank you for pointing out the correct module! WhisperToMe (discussion) 2 mas 2016 à 04:39 (UTC)[reponn]
The thing that needs testing is the proposed css, right? Because you've got the proposed css in Itilizatè:WhisperToMe/common.css, your browser will render the cs1 templates throughout ht.wiki according to your css settings. That being the case, to test the css, it is not necessary to import the cs1|2 templates or the module; simply write test templates perhaps like this:
{{cite book |title=Title |quote=this is a quotation}}
Title. this is a quotation 
which should render with the |title=Title in italics and |quote=this is a quotation upright between guillemets.
And, since the <cite> css markup is well tested at en.wiki it can be implemented now so that you can concentrate on testing <q> markup which could be something as simple as this (which the cs1|2 templates do not do):
<q>testing <q>&lt;q>...&lt;/q> markup</q>
testing <q>...</q> markup here
Trappist the monk (discussion) 2 mas 2016 à 13:15 (UTC)[reponn]
Aha. I tried Itilizatè:WhisperToMe/common.css/test and got it to work here WhisperToMe (discussion) 3 mas 2016 à 07:14 (UTC)[reponn]

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────@LLarson : What do you think about the result at Itilizatè:WhisperToMe/common.css/test? WhisperToMe (discussion) 3 mas 2016 à 21:40 (UTC)[reponn]

@WhisperToMe : It looks exactly like it would on any other page because I haven’t tweaked my own skin. 😊 I’m surprised there isn’t an easier way for a team to test a skin. That said, if I save the page to my desktop and apply your temporary skin to it, it looks exactly like what I was expecting. Cheers, —LLarson (di & ) 5 mas 2016 à 16:45 (UTC)[reponn]
CSS ≠ skin. You can easily test skins; just append ?useskin=monobook to any page (or whichever of the four skins you actually want to test). WhatamIdoing (discussion) 8 mas 2016 à 18:23 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhatamIdoing : I was vague. I meant I was disappointed that there wasn’t an analogous way to test a sandboxed CSS (by, say, appending ?useskin=Itilizatè:WhisperToMe/common.css). As always, thank you. —LLarson (di & ) 10 mas 2016 à 02:31 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhisperToMe : Congrats on the gig! 😊 I was wondering if we could pick up where we left off on this? Thank you, —LLarson (di & ) 27 avril 2016 à 01:25 (UTC)[reponn]
@LLarson : Sounds good! I think I was able to get my test to do as I wanted but we can swap some code (the one being used by HT.wiki with mine) and see if it has the desired effect WhisperToMe (discussion) 28 avril 2016 à 02:22 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhisperToMe : Awesome. Can’t wait. Need help with the code swap? Thanks! —LLarson (di & ) 28 avril 2016 à 15:42 (UTC)[reponn]
@LLarson : Based on my test, do you think we're ready to change MedyaWiki:Common.css? I would like to try it... WhisperToMe (discussion) 2 me 2016 à 20:22 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhisperToMe : I’ve been kicking its tires and yes, I think it’s ready to go live. —LLarson (di & ) 3 me 2016 à 02:18 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhisperToMe : It’s bad enough that the WP:KAFE is effectively anglofòn. Apologies for the idiom. I meant that I have been testing your stylesheet and I believe it is ready for general use. —LLarson (di & ) 3 me 2016 à 02:21 (UTC)[reponn]
@LLarson : I think it's working at Lekòl Leta Miami-Dade County - but I still see English quotes in the bottom of Lekòl Segondè Miami Edison WhisperToMe (discussion) 3 me 2016 à 03:50 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhisperToMe : Ahh. That is not a quotation; I believe those quotation marks are generated by the CS1 modules, but I’m not sure where, so I’ve asked for I’s help (permalink). —LLarson (di & ) 3 me 2016 à 15:32 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhisperToMe : I just fixed it 🙌 see Lekòl Segondè Miami Edison 😊 ! —LLarson (di & ) 3 me 2016 à 16:29 (UTC)[reponn]

Topic ideas for Port au Prince and Miami-related articles

A New York Times article gave me some topic ideas:

For Haiti:

These two are private schools in Port au Prince which enrolled members of Haiti's upper classes

For Miami:

Based on the statistics presented in this article I strongly suggest that the first articles started related to the U.S. should be mostly related to the states of Florida and New York

  • As of 2011 there were 535,000 Haitian Americans in the U.S. 47% were in Florida while the second largest group, 27%, were in New York State
  • Customs and Border Protection (CBP) data stated that 8,989 Haitians came to the U.S. in the nine month period after the 2010 earthquake, with 6,956 of them arriving in Miami. The number of Haitians who came in that time period is about the same as that of the other years (without any disasters occurring).

WhisperToMe (discussion) 24 fevriye 2016 à 20:15 (UTC)[reponn]

VisualEditor News #1—2016

Elitre (WMF), 26 fevriye 2016 à 19:21 (UTC)[reponn]

Topic ideas for New York City-related articles

http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/little_haiti_flatbush_and_canarsie_brooklyn en:Barry Popik wrote about the most common Haitian areas in New York City:

WhisperToMe (discussion) 1 mas 2016 à 20:08 (UTC)[reponn]

Updates to wiki search auto completion are arriving 10 March

- m:User:CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 7 mas 2016 à 22:09 (UTC)[reponn]

Machine translation support enabled today for Content Translation

Hello, machine translation support for Content Translation (beta feature) has now been extended and enabled for users of Haitian Wikipedia using Yandex. It can be used when translating Wikipedia articles into Haitian with Content Translation. To start using this service, please choose ‘’Yandex.Translate’’ from the ‘’Automatic Translation’’ dropdown menu that you see on the sidebar after you start translating an article. Please note, machine translation is available from all the languages that are supported by Yandex.Translate, but Content Translation can still be used in the usual manner for translating from all languages, with or without machine translation support.

Wikimedia Foundation’s Legal team and Yandex had collaborated earlier to work out an agreement that allows the use of Yandex.Translate without compromising Wikipedia’s policy of attribution of rights, privacy of our users and brand representation. Since November 2015, Yandex machine translation has been used for articles translated for Wikipedias in 7 languages. Details about Yandex translation services, including a summary of the contract are available on this page. More information about the machine translation services in Content Translation is available on this page. We request you to kindly take a look at these pages.

We have tested the service for use on the Haitian Wikipedia, but there could be unknown problems that we are not aware of yet. Please do let us know on our Project Talk page or phabricator if you face any problems using Content Translation. Our message is written in English only and we will be very grateful if the message could be translated in Haitian for other users of this wiki. Thank you. On behalf of WMF Language team: --Runa Bhattacharjee (WMF) (discussion) 11 mas 2016 à 12:07 (UTC)[reponn]

I'm hearing good things about Yandex integration. It's supposed to be better than Google Translate for many languages (especially Eastern European ones) – often requires only a few small fixes to get a good translation. However, I don't know enough Haitian Creole to know whether it's very good for this particular language. Could someone enable the Beta Feature and give it a try, and then let us know what you think? (If it's horrible, then we can get it turned off.) WhatamIdoing (discussion) 15 mas 2016 à 16:38 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhatamIdoing ak Runab WMF : I relied on Yandex for the creation of Lekòl Leta Miami-Dade County (although I didn’t actually publish the article using the built‑in feature). The quality of the translation was largely as you described it. In comparing Google, Bing, and now Yandex, each has room for improvement with Kreyòl, and each had specific weak areas with the text I tested, but none was markedly better than the others. I’d strongly support keeping this feature. The future is now — or at least very soon 😊 —LLarson (di & ) 16 mas 2016 à 22:54 (UTC)[reponn]

Make this Wikipedia easier to read

I'd like to have the devs turn on two features for our readers.

  • Hovercards: This is a very basic, but pretty version of NAVPOPS. It basically displayed the first few sentences and an image from an article. We don't have NAVPOPS or any other gadgets here (and we don't want to maintain them, either), but it might be nice to be able to find out where a link goes without clicking on it.
  • Related pages: This is like pre-loading search results at the bottom of the page. The algorithm is basically to run the page name through Special:Search, get the results, remove the result for the page that you're already reading, and display the first three in the list. I think this might increase the number of pages people read, by giving them pointers to pages that are related to what they're currently reading (and perhaps more reading will mean more people noticing the edit button? I can keep hoping...). Since most articles aren't developed enough to have a ==See also== section yet, this would be a flexible, automatically updating substitute. (It could always be turned off later.)

What do you think? Does anyone object to giving these a try? WhatamIdoing (discussion) 16 mas 2016 à 23:50 (UTC)[reponn]

@WhatamIdoing : I already see these preferences here. Does that sound right? —LLarson (di & ) 15 avril 2016 à 17:59 (UTC)[reponn]
Right now, both of these are in Espesyal:Preferans#mw-prefsection-betafeatures and turned off, unless you login and turn them on for your account. I think we should have them turned ON, unless you turn them off for your account.
Also, I think that we should consider turning on "Enhanced Notifications" for everyone. That way, if you ping me here, I'll see that ping at other wikis (such as Commons and enwiki, where I've manually turned on this feature). It might help us stay connected better. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 25 avril 2016 à 05:35 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhatamIdoing : Ah! I didn’t understand. Then in that case, big resounding yeses to your proposals! Whom do we see about this? —LLarson (di & ) 25 avril 2016 à 05:45 (UTC)[reponn]
It's the Collaboration team for Enhanced Notifications (which might take some arm-twisting to get it earlier than sooner wikis), and I think that Related Pages and Hovercards belong to the Reading team. I'll contact the teams. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 26 avril 2016 à 15:12 (UTC)[reponn]
Thank you!! —LLarson (di & ) 28 avril 2016 à 15:44 (UTC)[reponn]

New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (March 2016)

Apologies for writing in English. Aidez-nous à traduire dans votre langue

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL OWL says sign up today!

The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for access to research materials from:

  • Cambridge University Press - a major publisher of academic journals and e-books in a variety of subject areas. Access includes both Cambridge Journals Online and Cambridge Books. 25 accounts.
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  • Baylor University Press - a publisher of academic e-books primarily in religious studies and the humanities. 50 accounts.
  • Future Science Group - a publisher of medical, biotechnological and scientific research. 30 accounts.
  • Annual Reviews - a publisher of review articles in the biomedical sciences. 100 accounts.
  • Miramar Ship Index - an index to ships and their histories since the early 19th century. 30 accounts.

Non-English

  • Noormags - Farsi-language aggregator of academic and professional journals and magazines. 30 accounts.
  • Kotobna - Arabic-language ebook publishing platform. 20 accounts.

Expansions

  • Gale - aggregator of newspapers, magazines and journals. 50 accounts.
  • Elsevier ScienceDirect - an academic publishing company that publishes medical and scientific literature. 100 accounts.

Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including Project MUSE, De Gruyter, EBSCO, Newspapers.com and British Newspaper Archive. Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 17 mas 2016 à 20:30 (UTC)


You can host and coordinate signups for a Wikipedia Library branch in your own language. Please contact Ocaasi (WMF).
This message was delivered via the Global Mass Message tool to The Wikipedia Library Global Delivery List.
I have an account at Annual Reviews through this program. It is really easy. If you are interested, and believe that you would use a source at least once during the next year, then please sign up. There is no need for any established editor to feel like she or he can't get legal access to the sources that we need. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 18 mas 2016 à 21:31 (UTC)[reponn]

Open Call for Individual Engagement Grants

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Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants (IEG) program is accepting proposals until April 12th to fund new tools, research, outreach efforts, and other experiments that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers. Whether you need a small or large amount of funds (up to $30,000 USD), IEGs can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.

With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) 31 mas 2016 à 15:47 (UTC)[reponn]

Administratè yo

Since maybe March 23, 2016, it looks like Wikipedya’s been without any administrators, and there might not be any stewardship at all.[1] Because the unmet need definitely continues, we may wish to recruit I (most recent admin) and I (second most recent candidate) until the need is met. The status quo is not sustainable. Input, please? —LLarson (di & ) 1 avril 2016 à 16:41 (UTC)[reponn]

@WhatamIdoing, Arsendis, Aliceba, MdmPaj, ak Titodutta : We need an administrator and I’m fairly certain the entire site’s without any stewardship. In addition to the two candidates I mentioned above, I also notified I on Wikipedia nan angle, but have not heard back yet. Would one of you be willing to accept a nomination—even as a temporary administrator, until we can find real coverage? Mèsi, —LLarson (di & ) 4 avril 2016 à 03:06 (UTC)[reponn]
WhisperToMe was appointed in a three-month temp position. It must have expired. We should be able to get that renewed by asking the m:Stewards. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 5 avril 2016 à 16:20 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhatamIdoing : I’m concerned that I is not still interested. I’m grateful for their service, but it looks like they haven’t been on Wikipedya nan kreyòl for over a month—including the last twenty days of the three‑month adminship, and including since I {{ping}}’d them at the beginning of this thread. It does look like they remained very active on Wikipedia nan angle during the same period, if I’m reading these correctly.
Perhaps you would consider the nomination, instead? —LLarson (di & ) 5 avril 2016 à 17:33 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhatamIdoing, Arsendis, Aliceba, MdmPaj, Titodutta, ak Taketa : Bonjou ! I’m delighted to announce that I has accepted the nomination. Before we take this to meta, I’d like to encourage feedback, souple? MèsiLLarson (di & ) 6 avril 2016 à 19:17 (UTC)[reponn]
Based on our interactions since I first came here and the fact that a single administrator is not sufficient, I still strongly encourage I to accept a nomination, too. —LLarson (di & ) 6 avril 2016 à 19:25 (UTC)[reponn]
I think it is important for admins to speak the local language, at least a little bit. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 7 avril 2016 à 18:00 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhatamIdoing : I can respect that. Would you like to comment on I’s nomination? —LLarson (di & ) 7 avril 2016 à 22:30 (UTC)[reponn]
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@LLarson : Sorry, I had been sidetracked and had forgotten about things on here. If I forget to respond on my HT.wiki page I can be reached at my EN.wiki page. I don't have to be an admin but I can help draft letters for contacting people. WhisperToMe (discussion) 13 avril 2016 à 05:17 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhisperToMe : I’m not familiar with these letters — what are they? Also, do you have input, recommendations, suggestions concerning Wikipedya stewardship? —LLarson (di & ) 15 avril 2016 à 17:51 (UTC)[reponn]
@LLarson : Diskisyon Itilizatè:Racconish has English and French copies of form letters which can be sent to Haitian organizations. The idea is to ask the organization to participate in this Wikipedia. WhisperToMe (discussion) 16 avril 2016 à 08:07 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhisperToMe : Sounds good! Have any been sent out yet? —LLarson (di & ) 17 avril 2016 à 14:46 (UTC)[reponn]
@LLarson : None have been sent out yet, but I've given a list of Haitian organizations to another user here. Do you want me to send some feeler e-mails out? WhisperToMe (discussion) 18 avril 2016 à 04:32 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhatamIdoing, Arsendis, Aliceba, MdmPaj, Titodutta, Taketa, ak WhisperToMe : If you haven’t done so already, I highly recommend that you enable Notifications améliorées on Wikipedya nan kreyòl (and Enhanced notifications on Wikipedia in English) to make sure you’re notified of activity across all projects. —LLarson (di & ) 15 avril 2016 à 17:54 (UTC)[reponn]
@All : This is a second call for input on I’s nomination for administrator, please? —LLarson (di & ) 15 avril 2016 à 17:56 (UTC)[reponn]
I think Savvyjack23 would make a great admin. Also the fact that he's in New York City means he can advertise/promote HTwiki to the Haitian community there. He could in person supervise Haitian Americans and Haitian nationals resident in the U.S. who want to try editing HTwiki WhisperToMe (discussion) 16 avril 2016 à 07:54 (UTC)[reponn]
BTW if you want a #2 I am willing to have another temp admin term. Now I've enabled HTwiki notifications so I can be plugged in. WhisperToMe (discussion) 16 avril 2016 à 07:56 (UTC)[reponn]
I think it is important for admins to speak the local language, at least a little bit. DARIO SEVERI (discussion) 17 avril 2016 à 06:42 (UTC)[reponn]
@DARIO SEVERI : For I that’s not an issue; he’s contributed nan kreyòl here. —LLarson (di & ) 17 avril 2016 à 14:50 (UTC)[reponn]
OK @LLarson :!, you know better than I who has been contributing here. DARIO SEVERI (discussion) 17 avril 2016 à 14:59 (UTC)[reponn]
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@WhisperToMe : I definitely think we need no fewer than two long‑term admins here. What do people see as the benefit of a three‑month position instead of something longer‑term on a Wiki that right now has zero stewardship?
Also, your user page says Itilizatè sa pa konnen anyen nan Kreyòl... is that accurate? —LLarson (di & ) 17 avril 2016 à 15:03 (UTC)[reponn]
@LLarson : It is correct that it's HT-0. Anyway if Savvyjack23 knows Haitian that makes him an even better candidate! I really hope he can join so he can serve as an admin and as a recruiter for HT.wiki in the NYC area. Anyway I'm willing to take another three month term or whatever is appropriate if there are no better candidates to fill either admin slot. If there is a better #2 who is from Miami and/or Haiti itself that would be even better. If you want I could attack a request for people interested in being admins to the letter that can be sent to Haitian organizations. WhisperToMe (discussion) 18 avril 2016 à 04:32 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhisperToMe :, if there is not an better candidate you should take at least a six month term. DARIO SEVERI (discussion) 18 avril 2016 à 08:20 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhisperToMe : I think the recruitment for editor work here is a good idea; I’m concerned about contacting people that are not already here (and likely not even editors on any Wiki) to conduct stewardship. Considering all of this, and because I was in the middle of unfinished Module work when his term ended (see § Èd administratè above), I think another temporary adminship is in order, of at least six months. —LLarson (di & ) 18 avril 2016 à 15:43 (UTC)[reponn]
@LLarson : I'll be happy to accept another six month term. Also, for people not previously on Wikipedia it's correct that they should be recruited first as editors. WhisperToMe (discussion) 19 avril 2016 à 17:04 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhisperToMe ak Savvyjack23 : I, I, and I support I’s extension, and DARIO and I explicitly supported at least six months. I’ll take this to the Stewards at Meta. Congratulations! One temporary down, and two permanents to go. —LLarson (di & ) 24 avril 2016 à 18:29 (UTC)[reponn]
@All: The request is posted here. —LLarson (di & ) 24 avril 2016 à 18:41 (UTC)[reponn]
@All: In the meantime, perhaps we should consider nominating I for the longer‑term role? —LLarson (di & ) 18 avril 2016 à 15:46 (UTC)[reponn]
And for the nomination of I: the nominee accepted, I believe we have 2–0 support in addition to mine as nominator. If that’s accurate, then all I think should happen before we take this to Meta is that he add a contact email address to his account, which is something Stewards will check exists here. —LLarson (di & ) 18 avril 2016 à 15:47 (UTC)[reponn]
Yes @LLarson :, Savvyjack2 has my support too. Thanks for your suggestion but I prefer for now just be an editor in this Wikipedia. DARIO SEVERI (discussion) 18 avril 2016 à 16:16 (UTC)[reponn]

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Comments:
  • I have no objection to Savvy Jack being an admin, and I am happy that he's involved here.
  • LLarson, one of these days, we're going to draft you as admin, too. Might as well be now, you know.
  • Having two (or more) admins means that if Admin #1 is off wiki (e.g., holiday or sick), or is w:en:WP:INVOLVED in a dispute, or just doesn't know what's to do, then there's someone else to help.
  • I've finally turned on "Enhanced Notifications" here and (importantly) also at the English Wikipedia. To get the real benefit, you need to do this at your other wikis, not just at one. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 25 avril 2016 à 05:42 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhatamIdoing : I’m glad to hear your support for I! I’d said that as soon as he added a contact email address to his account, I’d take the request to the Stewards, as of today it hasn’t yet been added (Espesyal:ImèlItilizatè/Savvyjack23 returns an error, in French of course 😔, Cet utilisateur n'a pas spécifié une adresse de courriel valide).
When you think that time has come, I’d be delighted to accept a nomination for adminship. Notwithstanding, I still feel like our stewardship here is dangerously low, and at the moment, 100% temporary (I until October 24, 2016). Any thoughts or is this just the status quo on a small wiki? —LLarson (di & ) 28 avril 2016 à 15:40 (UTC)[reponn]
Temporary adminship is very typical for small wikis. I believe they worry that they'll make someone permanent, and later a community will form, and the newly formed community will dislike the old admin. The first step towards getting permanent admins is getting more people here.
(They usually start off with three months for the first term of office.) WhatamIdoing (discussion) 29 avril 2016 à 06:41 (UTC)[reponn]
Sorry to be so late to the party. I am very glad to see that an administrator has been found for Wikipedya. I'm going to take a breather from creating content on the English Wikipedia and put more effort into improving the topics related to Women's Health isit la (here). One interesting fact about Haiti, or at least Northern Haiti is the fact that so many young people own and use cell phones. I don't think that there is an intact medical library in the whole country. I'll be checking back in. Sorry but I've been swamped in other projects. If you want to rotate admin-ships, let me know and I can do a 3 or 4 month shift. It's worth it. Li se toujou bon yo pale avè ou, MdmPaj (discussion) 2 jiyè 2016 à 23:01 (UTC)[reponn]

Server switch 2016

The Wikimedia Foundation will be testing its newest data center in Dallas. This will make sure Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to conduct a planned test. This test will show whether they can reliably switch from one data center to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.

They will switch all traffic to the new data center on Tuesday, 19 April.
On Thursday, 21 April, they will switch back to the primary data center.

Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop during those two switches. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.

You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.

  • You will not be able to edit for approximately 15 to 30 minutes on Tuesday, 19 April and Thursday, 21 April, starting at 14:00 UTC (15:00 BST, 16:00 CEST, 10:00 EDT, 07:00 PDT).

If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.

Other effects:

  • Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped.

Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.

  • There will be a code freeze for the week of 18 April.

No non-essential code deployments will take place.

This test was originally planned to take place on March 22. April 19th and 21st are the new dates. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org. They will post any changes on that schedule. There will be more notifications about this. Please share this information with your community. /User:Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17 avril 2016 à 21:07 (UTC)[reponn]

Wikipedia to the Moon

Hello! Sorry that this is in English only, but we are using village pump messaging in order to reach as many language communities as possible. Wrong page? Please fix it here.

This is an invitation to all Wikipedians: Wikimedia Deutschland has been given data space to include Wikipedia content in an upcoming mission to the Moon. (No joke!) We have launched a community discussion about how to do that, because we feel that this is for the global community of editors. Please, join the discussion on Meta-Wiki (and translate this invitation to your language community)! Best, Moon team at Wikimedia Deutschland 21 avril 2016 à 15:35 (UTC)

I wonder what our best article is (or will be). I'm certain that they would like to have at least one article in Haitian Creole for this project. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 29 avril 2016 à 06:43 (UTC)[reponn]

Mesaj yo

@WhatamIdoing ak WhisperToMe : I’m finding conflicting information on where to add translations for the interface here at Wikipedya. Is it really a Translatewiki project? MediaWiki there? Once additions/changes are made, how is the content updated here? MèsiLLarson (di & ) 30 avril 2016 à 19:36 (UTC)[reponn]

Translatewiki.net handles the translation of the user interface. The UI is all the (labels) that you will see on this page if you click here.
Content is updated daily from "TWN". You'll need a separate account there. Please set one up, follow the directions as best you can, and then let me know. You can leave a note on my talk page there. I'll see if I can expedite approval of your account.
(User:Arsendis, the same goes for you.) WhatamIdoing (discussion) 1 me 2016 à 00:34 (UTC)[reponn]
@WhatamIdoing : Thank you again. I got it. Remind me to RTFM—or at least peruse it—before I breathlessly ask for help next time. 😳😂🙈 —LLarson (di & ) 1 me 2016 à 02:11 (UTC)[reponn]
Please ask for help whenever you want. UI translation is complicated and the help docs are out of date. Besides, you might not be the only person who has that question – just the only person who is willing to ask. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 3 me 2016 à 01:25 (UTC)[reponn]

The first version of the ArticlePlaceholder is here

Hey everyone :)

Last year we started working on the ArticlePlaceholder in order to fullfill Wikidata's promise of supporting especially the smaller Wikipedias. Your Wikipedia offered to be among the first to try it. Thank you so much for that! Today we have rolled it out on the first 4 Wikipedias: Esperanto, Haitian Creole, Neapolitan and Odia. I hope this will help your Wikipedia by offering your readers more content and by turning more of them into active editors.

What is happening now: When someone searches for a topic where there is no local article but where Wikidata has content it will show up in the search results. When the reader clicks the search result link they will be taken to the ArticlePlaceholder page that shows the content Wikidata has and offers them to create the article.

What we rolled out today is a first version in order to get feedback from you. There are still a few rough edges that we are working on and I'd love to hear any additional feedback you have. Only with your feedback can we make sure the ArticlePlaceholder is actually useful for you and your readers. The next thing we will be working on is to allow translation of an article from another language if it exists using the Content Translation tool. Other things we know are still broken or need work:

  • language fallbacks in the properties are not working so you will see a lot of P1234 and so on until a label is added on Wikidata in your language
  • long identifiers break out of the identifier box on the right side and don't look good
  • right now you only get an ArticlePlaceholder in the search results when Wikidata has at least 3 links to other Wikimedia projects and 3 statements. We might need to tweak this number still based on your feedback. We limit this in order to not encourage readers to create an article that will be deleted right after they created it because it isn't notable.

In order for the feature to work well we need labels for items and properties in your language on Wikidata. A lot exist already but if you want to help out you can find items and properties that need labels in your language at https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-terminator and d:Special:ListProperties.

A lot of the ArticlePlaceholder can be changed locally here in your wiki. However I'd like to ask you to try to not make these changes locally yet as it would be better to improve it for everyone in the original software. If you have change suggestions please let me know about them.

Here are some example pages:

Thank you again for being the first to try the ArticlePlaceholder and help us make it really useful for everyone.

Cheers --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (discussion) 11 me 2016 à 19:45 (UTC)[reponn]

It looks like this is giving us an extra line on the search results, "Discover data", which is also very helpful. See these search results (on an English term), and when you click the link, it takes you to the Haitian Creole article on that subject. This is very cool. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 18 me 2016 à 16:20 (UTC)[reponn]
For this to work well, we need everything here to be translated (at translatewiki.net) and as much of https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-terminator/ as possible. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 3 jen 2016 à 05:47 (UTC)[reponn]
We've made some progress, but there's more to be done. Jump in if you want, or if you don't want to be bothered with setting up an account, then post the translations to my talk page (with links and the original text, so I get them in the right places!) and I'll copy them over for you. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 4 jiyè 2016 à 20:41 (UTC)[reponn]

Help for translate

Hello and sorry for writing in English. Can anyone help me translate a small article (2 paragraphs) from English to your language? Please, fell free to answer in my talk page in your wiki. Xaris333 (discussion) 29 me 2016 à 20:45 (UTC)[reponn]

@Xaris333 : Mwen te reponn isit la. —LLarson (di & ) 30 me 2016 à 02:27 (UTC)[reponn]

Two articles on the same subject.

Hi, there are two articles about the Atlantic ocean, Oseyan atlantik and Atlantik, we need to eliminate one of them. Probably bringing the text from the first to the second and eliminating the first (Oseyan atlantik), it was created later. DARIO SEVERI (discussion) 31 me 2016 à 19:01 (UTC)[reponn]

For what it’s worth, I agree. I think we need the admin to do it properly? 😊 —LLarson (di & ) 4 jen 2016 à 17:01 (UTC)[reponn]
I tried to do it manually, changing the "Oseyan atlantik" for the name "Oseyan atlantike" and later change "Atlantik" for "Oseyan atlantik" ... but when I changed the first one it was created also a redirection to the name "Oseyan atlantik" so I can't move "Atlantik" for "Oseyan atlantik" unless the redirection is canceled first. The idea was subsequently change "Oseyan atlantike" for "Atlantik" and made it a redirection (save both history). I think we need a sysop ;) DARIO SEVERI (discussion) 4 jen 2016 à 20:58 (UTC)[reponn]

We don't need an admin. We just need to edit the redirects. Here are links to let you see the true content of the three pages now:

Then, to see how it works, click the normal links:

We can rearrange these if you want. Please tell me which one you want to be the "real" name for the page (the one that the readers will see first and biggest). WhatamIdoing (discussion) 5 jen 2016 à 19:06 (UTC)[reponn]

Hi WhatamIdoing (d · k), the "real" name is Oseyan atlantik, but with the text is now on the page Atlantik, ... so we need first cancel the redirect Oseyan atlantik, after that rename the page Atlantik to Oseyan atlantik without create a redirect. After that, if we want preserve the history of the actual redirect Oseyan atlantike change it to redirect Oseyan atlantik without create a redirect.
In the end we will have the article Oseyan atlantik and one redirect with name Atlantic. I can not do this because I am not allowed to cancel a redirect in this Wikipedia. DARIO SEVERI (discussion) 5 jen 2016 à 20:45 (UTC)[reponn]
Argh, my "fix" to the redirect yesterday means that we now need an admin. User:WhisperToMe, could you please move Atlantik over the redirect to Oseyan atlantik? WhatamIdoing (discussion) 6 jen 2016 à 15:08 (UTC)[reponn]
Done :) WhisperToMe (discussion) 6 jen 2016 à 21:16 (UTC)[reponn]
Thanks. DARIO SEVERI (discussion) 6 jen 2016 à 21:30 (UTC)[reponn]

Hundreds of them!

...

Look at the sub-categories of Kategori:Vil nan Kiba. Someone has created (8 years ago) hundreds of duplicates.

For instance :

--Chaoborus (discussion) 22 jen 2016 à 07:11 (UTC)[reponn]

Some categories are duplicates too (Im creating all the categories, to be sure no duplicate will be forgotten). --Chaoborus (discussion) 22 jen 2016 à 07:50 (UTC)[reponn]
Fè : I fixed the most obvious duplicates. There was... more than 1500 of them! I think there could be about 200-300 (less obvious) duplicates left. --Chaoborus (discussion) 1 jiyè 2016 à 20:32 (UTC)[reponn]
Thank you, Chaoborus. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 4 jiyè 2016 à 20:37 (UTC)[reponn]

Wikipedia to the Moon: voting has begun

Hello, after six weeks of community discussion about Wikipedia to the Moon, there are now 10 different proposals for content for the mission. Starting today, you can vote for them on Meta-Wiki, and decide what we will work on: a Wikipedia canon, different lists, the Moon in 300 languages, an astronomy editathon, featured articles, articles about technology, endangered things, or DNA-related topics. You can even vote against community involvement. Voting is open until 24 June. Sorry that this message is again in English only, but we are using village pumps to reach as many communities as possible, so that everyone knows they can vote. Best, Moon team at Wikimedia Deutschland 10 jen 2016 à 15:31 (UTC)

Paj long

Espesyal:PajLong lists the longest articles. I believe that some of them have problems. For example, the article about the constitution appears to be a copy of its text, instead of an encyclopedia article. This might be an interesting list for a Haitian Creole speaker to review. WhatamIdoing (discussion) 14 jen 2016 à 14:00 (UTC)[reponn]

Compact Links coming soon to this wiki

Aidez-nous à traduire dans votre langue

Screenshot of Compact Language Links interlanguage list

Hello, I wanted to give a heads up about an upcoming feature for this wiki which you may seen already in Tech News. Compact Language Links has been available as a beta-feature on all Wikimedia wikis since 2014. With compact language links enabled, users are shown a much shorter list of languages on the interlanguage link section of an article (see image). This will be enabled as a feature in the coming week for all users, which can be turned on or off using a preference setting. We look forward to your feedback and please do let us know if you have any questions. Details about Compact Language Links can be read in the project documentation.

Due to the large scale enablement of this feature, we have had to use MassMessage for this message and as a result it is only written in English. We will really appreciate if this message can be translated for other users of this wiki. The main announcement can also be translated on this page. Thank you. On behalf of the Wikimedia Language team: Runa Bhattacharjee (WMF) (talk)-1 jiyè 2016 à 12:57 (UTC)[reponn]

Wikipedia to the Moon: invitation to edit

Three weeks ago, you were invited to vote on how to take Wikipedia articles to the Moon. Community voting is over and the winning idea is to send all ‘’featured articles and lists’’ to the Moon. This decision means that, starting today, Wikipedians from all language communities are warmly invited to intensively work on their best articles and lists, and submit them to Wikipedia to the Moon. The central site to coordinate between communities will be Meta-Wiki. You will find an overview and more information there. Hopefully, we will be able to represent as many languages as possible, to show Wikipedia’s diversity. Please feel kindly invited to edit on behalf of your community and tell us about your work on featured content!

Best, Moon team at Wikimedia Deutschland 1 jiyè 2016 à 14:10 (UTC)

Editing News #2—2016

m:User:Elitre (WMF), 3 jiyè 2016 à 17:20 (UTC)[reponn]

Main Page

The Main Page is a wikitext table. This is very awkward for smartphones and mobile devices.

But – baby steps. The item at the end of the page is Modèl:Wikipediasister. It is also a table. Could we replace that with a simple, small list, like this idea?


Commons – Free media repository.

MediaWiki – Wiki software development.

Meta-Wiki – Wikimedia project coordination.

Wikibooks – Free textbooks and manuals.

Wikidata – Free knowledge base.

Wikinews – Free-content news.

Wikiquote – Collection of quotations.

Wikisource – Free-content library.

Wikispecies – Directory of species.

Wikiversity – Free learning materials and activities.

Wikivoyage – Free travel guide.

Wiktionary – Dictionary and thesaurus.

Wikimedia Foundation – Non-profit organization that hosts Wikipedia and Wikipedia's sister projects.


(Perhaps we don't need to include all of these, since many are not available in Haitian Creole.) What do you think? WhatamIdoing (discussion) 4 jiyè 2016 à 20:52 (UTC)[reponn]

Lists

Well, it looks like that might be a bit complicated. There aren't really any active Haitian Creole options. Here's how the list looks, when grouped by language:

Multi-lingual

Commons – Free media repository.

MediaWiki – Wiki software development.

Meta-Wiki – Wikimedia project coordination.

Wikidata – Free knowledge base.

Wikispecies – Directory of species.

Wikimedia Foundation – Non-profit organization that hosts Wikipedia and Wikipedia's sister projects.

Haitian Creole
Closed

Wikisource – Free-content library.

Incubator

Wiktionary – Dictionary and thesaurus.

Wikibooks – Free textbooks and manuals.

Wikivoyage – Free travel guide.

Only other languages (remove)

Wikiquote – Collection of quotations.

Wikinews – Free-content news.

Wikiversity – Free learning materials and activities.

I've got nothing against either keeping or removing as many of these as you'd like. But "keep only the Haitian Creole ones" really means "keep nothing". (I suppose that we probably should keep multi-lingual sites such as Commons, Meta, MediaWiki, and Wikidata.) WhatamIdoing (discussion) 12 jiyè 2016 à 04:43 (UTC)[reponn]

DARIO SEVERI, User:MdmPaj, User:WhisperToMe, User:LLarson, User:Guy Macon: What do you think about really stripping it down, and including only these at the bottom of the Main Page?

Commons – Free media repository.
MediaWiki – Wiki software development.
Meta-Wiki – Wikimedia project coordination.
Wikidata – Free knowledge base.
Wikimedia Foundation – Non-profit organization that hosts Wikipedia and Wikipedia's sister projects.

instead of the current table:

Lòt tip wiki yo

I know it's a big change. (Also, it would need to be translated.) WhatamIdoing (discussion) 13 jiyè 2016 à 00:46 (UTC)[reponn]
Much better, and especially much better for blind people who read Wikipedia through a device that speaks the content of each page. Should be better for phones as well. Smartphones with big screens should work just fine with either version, but simple flip phones with tiny screens will work far better with a simplified main page. --Guy Macon (talk) 13 jiyè 2016 à 05:08 (UTC)--Guy Macon (talk) 13 jiyè 2016 à 05:08 (UTC)[reponn]
I agree with the change. It is also possible to update it? It has pictures (fichye) that do not appear. DARIO SEVERI (discussion) 13 jiyè 2016 à 09:38 (UTC)[reponn]
@I: We could ask I to create a redirect from the deleted file Fichye:Cesaire2.jpg to Fichye:Aime Cesaire 2003.jpg, which will solve the problem everywhere the file is used on Wikipedya. —LLarson (di & ) 18 jiyè 2016 à 13:23 (UTC)[reponn]
@LLarson : done WhisperToMe (discussion) 18 jiyè 2016 à 14:09 (UTC)[reponn]
Thank you, I. Sorry for the chase, but it’s not working as I expected; could you please swap out the “Cesaire2.jpg” with “Aime Cesaire 2003.jpg” in {{Kout pwojektè}}? Thank you. —LLarson (di & ) 18 jiyè 2016 à 14:18 (UTC)[reponn]
I also agree WhisperToMe (discussion) 15 jiyè 2016 à 19:16 (UTC)[reponn]
Support! —LLarson (di & ) 18 jiyè 2016 à 13:23 (UTC)[reponn]

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Since we all seem to agree, then here's what Google Translate gives me as possible translations:

Commons – pataje fichye yo lib
Meta-Wiki – Wikimedia koodinasyon
Wikidata – gratis baz done konesans
MediaWiki – devlopman lojisyèl wiki
Wikimedia Foundation – ki pa pwofi ki gen tout pouvwa Wikipedya

Now you all know that I'm hopelessly ignorant of Haitian Creole and even French, so please help me out and fix these directly. And when you're satisfied, then please ping WhisperToMe, and he can use this little bit to replace the contents of {{Wikipediasister}} (and maybe remove the yellow table cell in the Main Page, and just let it be at the bottom in plain/non-table formatting?). WhatamIdoing (discussion) 18 jiyè 2016 à 20:20 (UTC)[reponn]

Compact Language Links enabled in this wiki today

Aidez-nous à traduire dans votre langue

Screenshot of Compact Language Links interlanguage list

Compact Language Links has been available as a beta-feature on all Wikimedia wikis since 2014. With compact language links enabled, users are shown a much shorter list of languages on the interlanguage link section of an article (see image). Based on several factors, this shorter list of languages is expected to be more relevant for them and valuable for finding similar content in a language known to them. More information about compact language links can be found in the documentation.

From today onwards, compact language links has been enabled as the default listing of interlanguage links on this wiki. However, using the button at the bottom, you will be able to see a longer list of all the languages the article has been written in. The setting for this compact list can be changed by using the checkbox under User Preferences -> Appearance -> Languages

The compact language links feature has been tested extensively by the Wikimedia Language team, which developed it. However, in case there are any problems or other feedback please let us know on the project talk page. It is to be noted that on some wikis the presence of an existing older gadget that was used for a similar purpose may cause an interference for compact language list. We would like to bring this to the attention of the admins of this wiki. Full details are on this phabricator ticket (in English).

Due to the large scale enablement of this feature, we have had to use MassMessage for this announcement and as a result it is only written in English. We will really appreciate if this message can be translated for other users of this wiki. Thank you. On behalf of the Wikimedia Language team: Runa Bhattacharjee (WMF) (talk)-8 jiyè 2016 à 03:03 (UTC)[reponn]